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Saturday, December 24, 2011< ^ >

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[13:05:58] <mahyuddin> hi jonas
[13:06:10] <jonas> mahyuddin: hi!
[13:06:13] <mahyuddin> how are you now?
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[15:47:29] <mahyuddin> jonas: hi!
[15:47:59] <jonas> mahyuddin: hi (again)!
[15:48:12] <mahyuddin> yapz
[15:48:43] <mahyuddin> ok, this time iam play boxer
[15:51:18] <mahyuddin> for tomorrow, i am and ali make presentase about boxer to aceh linux activist - Pelita (linux activist takengon)
[15:52:25] <mahyuddin> but i see this boxer error at "Errors were encountered while processing:
ifupdown" and other packages
[15:57:28] <jonas> when tomorrow?
[15:57:55] <jonas> I want to fix the problems, but have not done so yet
[15:58:09] <mahyuddin> teen o'clock at BPDE Office
[15:58:33] <jonas> arrgh - that is early (for me)
[15:58:48] <jonas> I will try stay awake some more hours now and try fix it.
[15:59:08] <jonas> ...but I am getting tired, so maybe I don't succeed
[15:59:10] <jonas> :-(
[15:59:59] <jonas> One thing you can try is limit what gets installed as much as possible
[16:00:51] <mahyuddin> oh ok
[16:01:53] <jonas> problem is this: when packages are configured immediately during install, they wrongly try start daemons which breaks when inside a chroot - and if configuration is delayed, kernel package is broken so the resulting image cannot boot
[16:02:47] <jonas> I need to educate multistrap that daemons should not be started when inside a chroot
[16:03:52] <mahyuddin> emm ok
[16:04:25] <mahyuddin> what about package 'ifupdown'?
[16:06:46] <jonas> similar issue: it tries to start networking which fails inside a chroot
[16:09:13] <mahyuddin> oh :)
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[18:45:17] <mahyuddin> :D
[18:45:21] <mahyuddin> hi again
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[18:48:00] <dotcom[guest]> hai
[18:51:28] <jonas> hi!
[18:52:20] <mahyuddin> this time i will try again to play boxer with ali and iqbal
[18:52:34] <dotcom[guest]> awesome
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[18:58:30] <alibungker> alow jonas
[18:58:46] <jonas> hi alibungker!
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[19:00:01] <alibungker> hai juga jonas
[19:00:04] <alibungker> how are you
[19:00:37] <jonas> I am tired
[19:00:41] <jonas> how are you?
[19:02:27] <alibungker> i m tired to ..i don't sleep lastnight.and tonight we want play with boxer..because tomorow we want training the other friends linux community about howto use boxer..
[19:05:37] <jonas> I fear I cannot solve the problems with boxer install
[19:06:09] <jonas> ifupdown failing seems to be this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/556402 <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=556402>
[19:06:28] <alibungker> hahaha...it's ok jones..
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[19:10:49] <jonas> hi TuanAdan! <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=556402>
[19:11:24] <TuanAdan> hi jonas
[19:12:05] <jonas> alibungker: closest to success is if you build for same arch, using real root
[19:12:49] <jonas> Like this:
#arch =
su-do-helper = sudo
[19:13:00] <mahyuddin> oh
[19:13:01] <TuanAdan> jonas: its like you are really tired
[19:13:18] <TuanAdan> ok i am following the topic now
[19:13:57] <jonas> TuanAdan: I am physically tired - not tired of Ali or boxer :-)
[19:14:07] <TuanAdan> :LOL:
[19:15:15] <alibungker> :)
[19:16:57] jonas testing with squeeze as target
[19:17:05] <mahyuddin> ok
[19:17:07] <mahyuddin> :)
[19:23:03] <jonas> ok, I found a dirty hack:
[19:23:33] <jonas> in tweaks/pakcage_config/DEFAULT change ifupdown to ifupdown-
[19:24:00] <jonas> that is, add a "-" at the end of ifupdown - to force it to *not* get installed
[19:28:02] <jonas> Do the same with resolvconf
[19:29:26] <jonas> mahyuddin, alibungker: ping
[19:30:02] <alibungker> siap
[19:30:03] <mahyuddin> ok
[19:30:13] <alibungker> i always follow you..
[19:30:53] <mahyuddin> yeah
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[19:39:36] <alibungker> i m stay here ...i m just starting and learn from mahyudin now..i m just started
[19:39:58] <TuanAdan> alibungker: so am i
[19:41:31] <jonas> mahyuddin: one failure left!
[19:42:09] <alibungker> wow...come on jones...you can do it.:)
[19:42:30] <jonas> ...but if fixed then boxer works a little too good: it automatically restarts when finished - but restarts the *host* machine :-P
[19:42:44] <jonas> so there are more bugs
[19:43:03] <jonas> perhaps you noticed that I disappeared for a minute before...
[19:43:17] <jonas> ...that was my laptop rebooting
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[19:48:51] <jonas> mahyuddin: two more hacks:
[19:49:01] <alibungker> lets go..
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[19:49:49] <jonas> edit multistrap/bin/install.sh to comment out last line (add a # in front of the reboot command)
[19:50:17] <mahyuddin> ok iw ill try
[19:50:25] <mahyuddin> i will try
[19:51:08] <jonas> edit Makefile on line 97 (in the tweak: target) from FAIL argument -BMr to -BMri
[19:51:21] <jonas> that is, add an "i" at the end of the argument
[19:51:52] <jonas> so all in all 4 things:
[19:52:25] <jonas> 1) Install using sudo for same arch
[19:52:44] <jonas> 2) avoid installing ifupdown or resolvconf
[19:53:03] <jonas> 3) avoid reboot as final action
[19:53:48] <jonas> 4) relax the FAI routine to not fail even if broken
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[19:58:37] <tuanadan> sorry for dc
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[20:06:04] <alibungker> marry cristmass alll....just kid...:)
[20:07:35] <jonas> alibungker: you are too late: In Denmark we celebrate the evening of 24th :-P
[20:09:37] <alibungker> hahhaha..sorry ....
[20:12:25] <naga> hahahhaa
[20:13:03] <jonas> mahyuddin: no need to use real root!
[20:13:07] <tuanadan> alibungker: ok
[20:14:17] <jonas> 1) Install for same arch and force immediate finalizing by adding this to config.mk: export finalize-when = now
[20:14:46] <jonas> the other 3 hacks are the same
[20:16:23] <mahyuddin> :)
[20:20:31] <jonas> 1) create config.mk with the following content:
suite = sid
export finalize-when = now
[20:20:47] <jonas> (the other 3 hacks are the same)
[20:22:56] <jonas> then execute the commands
make
sudo make install
[20:23:19] <alibungker> i m a far behind..but is okey..i follow step by step from http://git.emdebian.org/?p=upstream/boxer.git;a=blob;f=README from now.
[20:23:37] <jonas> I have not tested the make install command - and you still need to add a boot loader manually
[20:23:51] <mahyuddin> ok
[20:24:29] <jonas> alibungker: In addition to the README you should follow these steps 1-4, else your build will fail
[20:24:57] <jonas> 1) create config.mk with the following content:
suite = sid
export finalize-when = now
[20:25:35] <jonas> 2) avoid installing ifupdown or resolvconf by adding a dash at the end of them in tweaks/package_config/DEFAULT
[20:26:15] <jonas> 3) avoid reboot as final action by adding a hash (#) in front of last line in multistrap/bin/install.sh
[20:28:15] <jonas> 4) relax to ignore failures in the FAI routine by adding i to options argument in line 97 of Makefile, so the resulting argument reads -BMri
[20:28:40] <jonas> Good luck! I will go to bed now.
[20:28:52] <mahyuddin> ok
[20:28:55] <tuanadan> ok ok
[20:28:57] <mahyuddin> thank's
[20:30:51] <jonas> make sure to update your git - and tell me if it still fails for you (even if I am not in the chatroom, I can read the log later when I come online again)
[20:31:14] <mahyuddin> oh ok
[20:32:16] <jonas> good night, all!
[20:32:29] <mahyuddin> good night
[20:32:51] <tuanadan> good night.
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[21:05:56] <mahyuddin> this error :
NB! errors above about chroot not found is bogus (fcopy noise)
cp: cannot stat `/usr/bin/qemu-i486-static': No such file or directory
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