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Friday, September 23, 2011< ^ >

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[04:09:08] <firdaus[guest]> hy jones
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[07:18:51] <firdaus[guest]> buuzz
[07:18:52] <firdaus[guest]> buzzz
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[08:24:21] <jonas> good morning, firdaus - but too late :-(
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[12:25:14] <firdaus[guest]> buzz
[12:25:27] <jonas> hi
[12:25:48] <firdaus[guest]> this is your server ?
[12:25:50] <jonas> I created an account for you now
[12:25:53] <jonas> yes
[12:26:00] <jonas> your account name is muhammad
[12:26:12] <jonas> the server name is xayide.jones.dk
[12:26:31] <jonas> your password I can give you discretely
[12:26:50] <firdaus[guest]> iam not understand about server
[12:27:01] <jonas> please click on my name in the status area at the left - then we can talk privately
[12:28:10] <jonas> do you use Linux?
[12:29:10] <jonas> I mean right now - is it a Linux machine you are sitting at right now
[12:29:11] <jonas> ?
[12:29:55] <firdaus[guest]> no - iam windows ..
[12:30:09] <firdaus[guest]> now i will change boot to ubuntu
[12:30:20] <firdaus[guest]> wait yeah .....
[12:30:53] <jonas> yes, please switch to Linux now
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[12:39:09] <firdaus[guest]> buzz
[12:39:34] <jonas> please mention my name instead of "buzz"
[12:39:55] <firdaus[guest]> sorry , ok
[12:40:04] <jonas> when you mention my name (the name I am logged into the chat with - jonas - my chat program blinks to help make me aware
[12:40:10] <jonas> and don't be sorry!
[12:40:23] <jonas> :-)
[12:40:26] <firdaus[guest]> ok .
[12:40:28] <jonas> be happy :-)
[12:40:50] <jonas> are you familiar with ssh?
[12:40:50] <firdaus[guest]> so now what can i do for that account .?
[12:41:21] <jonas> first thing you should do is to log in with ssh and change your password
[12:41:28] <jonas> are you familiar with ssh?
[12:41:29] <firdaus[guest]> ssh ? for enter to server
[12:41:33] <jonas> yes
[12:41:45] <jonas> ssh muhammad@xayide.jones.dk
[12:41:48] <firdaus[guest]> open terminal yes ?
[12:41:51] <jonas> yes
[12:41:53] <jonas> :-)*
[12:43:02] <jonas> welcome!
[12:43:16] <jonas> you change your password with this command: passwd
[12:43:16] <firdaus[guest]> yes i have enter to your server
[12:44:51] <firdaus[guest]> how to change language ?
[12:44:52] <jonas> good!
[12:45:10] <jonas> you want indonesian?
[12:45:44] <firdaus[guest]> englist
[12:45:58] <jonas> ah, why not indonesian?
[12:46:36] <jonas> please - I recommend that you work *both* with local language and with english
[12:46:37] <firdaus[guest]> I want to used to talking in english
[12:46:55] <jonas> yes, english is good for international connections
[12:46:57] <jonas> but
[12:47:09] <jonas> local language is good to help others start with computers
[12:47:20] <firdaus[guest]> okay
[12:47:34] <firdaus[guest]> indonesian just
[12:47:38] <jonas> good
[12:47:57] <jonas> wait a moment - I need to find out how you change language)
[12:49:24] <jonas> ok
[12:49:42] <jonas> you need to edit this file: .bashrc
[12:50:03] <jonas> nano .bashrc
[12:50:28] <firdaus[guest]> yes
[12:50:28] <jonas> then, add this line at the end of the file:
export LANG="id_ID.UTF8"
[12:50:28] <firdaus[guest]> i have edit
[12:50:34] <firdaus[guest]> so what can i change
[12:50:47] <jonas> see above ^^
[12:52:46] <firdaus[guest]> can i open with gedit >
[12:53:07] <jonas> no - gedit is graphical
[12:53:38] <jonas> you cannot use graphical tools on remote access via ssh
[12:53:54] <jonas> better that you learn the text-based tools
[12:54:26] <jonas> it is expensive to travel to Denmark just because you only know a graphical editor
[12:54:40] <firdaus[guest]> I add the line: export LANG = "id_ID.UTF8" at the end of it?
[12:54:43] <jonas> it is cheaper to use ssh and nano and internet
[12:54:47] <jonas> good!
[12:55:14] <jonas> then save and quit nano
[12:55:30] <jonas> you can see the hints at the bottom how to do that
[12:55:36] <jonas> ^ means CTRL
[12:56:20] <jonas> CTRL+o to save
[12:56:29] <jonas> CTRL+x to quit
[12:56:53] <firdaus[guest]> yes
[12:56:58] <jonas> you made an error:
[12:57:10] <jonas> you added a space in fron of the command :-(
[12:57:22] <jonas> please edit again, and remove that leading space
[12:57:22] <firdaus[guest]> no no problem
[12:57:57] <firdaus[guest]> iam added
[12:58:20] <firdaus[guest]> # change indonesian languange
[12:58:21] <firdaus[guest]> export LANG = "id_ID.UTF8"
[12:58:33] <jonas> yes, I see that
[12:58:34] <jonas> but
[12:58:39] <jonas> you made an error
[12:58:40] <firdaus[guest]> is it true?
[12:59:03] <jonas> you added this line:
export LANG = "id_ID.UTF8"
[12:59:15] <jonas> you should have this line:
export LANG = "id_ID.UTF8"
[12:59:26] <jonas> notice the space before export
[12:59:38] <jonas> you need to remove the space before export
[13:00:33] <firdaus[guest]> wait i will change
[13:04:10] <firdaus[guest]> how ?
[13:04:11] <firdaus[guest]> it is true ?
[13:04:58] <firdaus[guest]> jonas ...
[13:05:08] <jonas> perfect
[13:05:19] <jonas> (it was fine that you added a comment before)
[13:05:39] <jonas> now log out from my server and log in again
[13:05:46] <jonas> then you should have indonesian
[13:05:47] <firdaus[guest]> okay
[13:08:32] <firdaus[guest]> -bash: export: `=': not a valid identifier -bash: export: `id_ID.UTF8': not a valid identifier
[13:08:34] <firdaus[guest]> why that
[13:09:46] <jonas> hmm
[13:09:56] <jonas> ahh
[13:10:08] <jonas> you added spaces before and after =
[13:10:26] <jonas> this is wrong:
export LANG = "id_ID.UTF8"
[13:10:26] <firdaus[guest]> yes space
[13:10:37] <jonas> this is right:
export LANG="id_ID.UTF8"
[13:10:56] <jonas> bash is very picky about spaces!
[13:10:57] <firdaus[guest]> ooo ... wait i will change
[13:13:58] <firdaus[guest]> thankyou jones ..
[13:14:02] <firdaus[guest]> the languange has been change
[13:15:11] <jonas> great!
[13:15:23] <jonas> if you want to use english
[13:15:37] <jonas> then add it in front of the command that you want to start
[13:15:41] <jonas> example:
[13:15:48] <jonas> nano .bashrc
[13:16:05] <jonas> LANG=en_US nano .bashrc
[13:16:10] <jonas> or
[13:16:14] <jonas> LANG=en nano .bashrc
[13:16:53] <firdaus[guest]> yes ...
[13:17:06] <firdaus[guest]> i understand
[13:18:36] <jonas> at jones.dk you have shell account
[13:18:41] <jonas> that is what you use now
[13:18:46] <jonas> you also have...
[13:18:49] <firdaus[guest]> yes
[13:18:51] <jonas> Jabber chat account
[13:18:58] <jonas> imap email account
[13:19:12] <jonas> try the Jabber account:
[13:19:33] <jonas> log out from this chatroom, and log back in as a normal user (not as guest)
[13:20:26] <jonas> your JAbber account is muhammad@jones.dk
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[17:53:47] <firdaus> jones
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